right now, we're gonna check in live with sal castanedo, find out what else is going on. i know, sal, if you have a better vantage point from your maps to see how far back this traffic extends. >> reporter: that's right. that's good you were there, tara. because we found out that cars are getting by but i still wouldn't advise it. the car is there at military west, where tara is. the best way to get around it, 80 westbound, eastbound 4. uses carquinez -- use the car carquinez bridge. use 80 westbound instead to eastbound highway 4. it will get you to the same area. you probably already know that. but the traffic is not bad on 4, at least not yet. steve mentioned there were some rain showers moving through the area as well. it's not great driving in this area of the bay. i also want to move it down to san francisco where we've had several crashes on 280, northbound and intersection in san francisco in and out of daly city. that whole area kind of tough driving. it's probably connected to some showers moving through but whatever it is, you should use extra care in this area